The ‘curse of the ninth’

April 2024

This was the intriguing title of a fascinating talk by Alan Forshaw on why the ninth symphony seems to loom large in composer’s lives. Beethoven’s 9th is well known although he did attempt a tenth and he left some sketches. It was with him that the myth started and it does seem to have had some kind of effect on those who followed him. Alan played the second movement in a version with a brisk tempo by Toscanini.

Schubert was second, a composer who died tragically young but nevertheless, left a vast treasure trove of music including – nine – symphonies. It has often been suggested that he died of syphilis but medical research suggests this is not true and it is much more likely, in view of the suddenness and the symptoms, he died of typhoid fever which was common at the time. As is well known, his eighth was unfinished. We heard the first movement from the ‘Great’ Symphony – his ninth. Schubert never heard either of them before his death.

Thence to Bruckner who, as Alan reminded us, was a huge admirer of Wagner and said he only worshiped two Gods and the other one was Wagner. He can’t have heard his symphony though … Bruckner was a famous organist and it was he who played the organ at the opening of the Albert Hall. We listened to one of the movements of his ninth, of which he only completed three, and died before finishing it. There may be something in this ‘curse of the ninth’ after all.

Dvořák next who was helped in his composing career by Brahms and was very lucky to get a very generous appointment in New York which gave him plenty of time for composing. We heard a movement from the famous New World Symphony and – you’re getting the hang of this, his ninth. The symphony was hugely important in the development of American music and was discovered after his death. It was premiered in 1893 in New York. Dvořák’s house can be visited just on the outskirts of Prague by the way.

Now Mahler did believe in the curse and went to some lengths to try and avoid labelling it the ninth. No matter, the curse got him and he died the following year.

On to Glazunov who enjoyed much fame and admiration in his day, both in Russia and in the west. He found the more modern composers, and in particular Stravinsky, hard to swallow and thought Petrushka little more than orchestrated dissonance. He never got far with his ninth and we heard an extract of the piano version – perhaps the world was spared. He did however have a pupil at the Leningrad Conservatory called Shostakovich who did go on to write 15 symphonies.

Next was Vaughan Williams who also managed to complete nine and we listened to a movement from it, his ‘last tune’ as he termed it. He died a few months after its premiere in 1958. The symphony is a little unusual in having scored saxophones – perhaps reflecting Ravel’s influence with whom he studied for a year.

And so to Kurt Atterberg, not a name which is that familiar even to keen classical music fans. Swedish, he studied both music and electrical engineering and indeed, it was this latter skill that kept him employed at the Swedish Patent Institute until his retirement. Preferring harmonics to harmony perhaps. He is another composer who had a degree of fame in his lifetime but is little known or played today.

Finally to Northampton born Malcolm Arnold who was a prolific composer well known for his film scores including for example, the St Trinian movies and the Bridge over the River Kwai among many others. An accomplished trumpet player having heard Louis Armstrong play he composed many pieces and including nine symphonies. He was not a pleasant character by all accounts and had a drink problem. He had mental health issues as well. At one point he was given two years to live but manage to live on for another 20. We heard a short extract from his ninth. His musical legacy seems assured.

So is there anything in the ‘curse of the ninth’? Probably not. The idea was created by Mahler who tried to beat it by calling what was his ninth as a song cycle. Looking at the list of composers of symphonies from the nineteenth century onwards it is striking that there is a vast number who wrote a handful, just one, two or three. It is also striking that there are few who wrote between three and 9. Most therefore will compose a small number of symphonies, which consume a significant chunk of time but achieve little success and even less financial reward, and decide to stick to shorter forms.

So how to explain the cluster around nine with few either side having composed eight or eleven symphonies for example? Perhaps the reason is mundane: a modern symphony seems to have taken most composers around two years to complete and not always in a continuous burst. Allowing time between each of say, a year, means each work represents around 3 years out of a composer’s life. Allowing for a productive life of around 40 years which may also include conducting and teaching, means a serious composer of symphonies will end up at the nine or ten mark. So those who do achieve some success at the start of their careers, then go on to reach it: those who don’t stop after one, two or three.

Whatever, it was a really interesting evening and as ever a mixture of the familiar with a handful of rarely heard pieces. The chair of SRMS thanked Alan for putting together an interesting and intriguing topic.

Our last meeting of the current season is on Monday 13 May at 7:30 as usual and is on the subject of Puccini to celebrate the anniversary of his death this year.

Finally, to say we are getting on well with the 2024/25 programme which is all planned and the programme will be available sometime in the summer. For clarity, I should say August since when and if summer comes is not at all certain.

Peter Curbishley

Pupils of famous composers

Who was this composer’s teacher?

Many composers taught pupils in a kind of apprenticeship scheme.  Composers often needed the money and no doubt the son or daughter of a wealthy family brought in a useful income.  Some pupils went on to have promising careers – others did not have sufficient talent to succeed.

In last night’s meeting Alan Forshaw played pieces by a variety of composers and asked us to guess who had been their teacher.  A combination of style, dates and where they lived or studied gave us a clue in some cases, especially the earlier ones, but it became steadily more difficult as we approached modern times.  Once again in a Society evening, we heard examples of music by long forgotten composers who’s music is worthy of a hearing.  Many were prolific in their day turning out operas, symphonies and concertos by the dozen.  The pieces we heard were:

  • a piano sonata in C by Johann Muthel a pupil of JS Bach
  • the Adagio from the Symphonie Concertante in A by Ignaz Pleyel, who’s name survives on pianos and music scores.  He wrote 41 symphonies. He was taught by Haydn and his influence was audible
  • Thomas Attwood (pictured) studied in Vienna under Mozart and his remains are buried in St Pauls.  We heard his Rondo from a Trio fo

    Thomas Attwood

    r Piano, Violin and ‘cello

  • this was followed by a Fantasia by Steven Storace who was born in London and also studied in Vienna
  • Carl Czerny is slightly better known and was a pupil of Beethoven.  The master’s influence could clearly be heard in his Theme and Variations for Horn and Piano
  • another pupil of Beethoven was Ferdinand Reis, a native of Bonn (a clue) and his Rondo from a Piano Concerto in C# minor showed a lot of talent
  • Franz Liszt needs no introduction and was a pupil of Czerny in Vienna.  We heard his Hungarian Rhapsody No 13
  • the immensely talented but almost unknown Carl Filtsch from Romania led Liszt to say when he heard him play, he would give up performing.  Tragically, he died in his teens but his Impromptu in Gb Major showed what a loss he was to music
  • another pupil of Czerny was Thomas Tellefsen from Norway who also studied in Paris.  Waltz in Db Major
  • Valsa Caprichosa from 3 Portuguese Scenes was composed by a pupil of Liszt, Jose Vianna da Motta who was born on the island of Sao Tome off the coast of Africa
  • Carl Reinecke has almost disappeared from view and is rarely heard today.  His Finale from Wind Octet in Bb Major was a delight
  • Gabriel Fauré needs no introduction who was a pupil of  Charles-Camille Saint-Saëns.  We heard the famous Paradisum from the Requiem
  • Someone less famous, or even unheard of, is Eugene Gigout also from France who studied in Paris under Saint-Saëns.  His Toccata in B Minor is exciting and worth listening to.  He was a famous organist in his day (born 1844)
  • Josef Suk was part of a large musical family and studied under Antonín Dvořák famous for his Symphony from the New World.  Suk does sometimes make it onto present day concerts and last night we heard the Andante from the Serenade for Strings Opus 6, a fine piece
  • Glazunov was a pupil of  Rimsky-Korsakov and studied in St Petersburg.  A prolific composer and we heard the preamble from Scenes de Ballet
  • another pupil of Rimsky-Korsakov was Igor Stravinsky one of the composers who had an enormous influence over the course of 20th century musical history and famous for his ballets.  His Piano Sonata No 2 was special and well worth a listen if you can
  • the Australian Percy Grainger had several teachers and studied in Berlin and elsewhere.  We heard the extraordinary Zanzibar Boat Song – six hands on one piano
  • Busoni was the teacher of Frederick Loewe famous for his musicals with Alan Lerner and it was The Rain In Spain from My Fair Lady we heard to illustrate his talent
  • Lennox Berkeley was a pupil of the enigmatic Maurice Ravel who’s influence could just be heard in Polka Opus 5a

    Vaughan Williams
  • Finally, another pupil of Ravel was Vaughan Williams (and we will be hearing more of him later in the season with a talk from the Vaughan Williams Society coming).  We heard part of March ‘Seventeen Come Sunday from the Folk Song suite (1924)

Alan had put in a lot of work to track down some of the more obscure pieces especially in the first half which made it an interesting and worthwhile evening.

Peter Curbishley


Next meeting on 30 October

Music of the saxophone

Two hundred years ago this month, Adolphe Sax was born in Dinant, Belgium.  The son of a music maker, he went on to invent an instrument which is the only one to bear the name of its inventor: the #saxophone.  Last Monday, the Recorded Music Society, to mark the anniversary of his birth, listened to a programme of orchestral music using this instrument.  It is a standard feature of jazz ensembles but it is only occasionally heard in orchestras and the repertoire for it is not large.
The presenter of the evenings programme was Ed Tinline – joint chair of the Society – who provided a fascinating history of the inventor himself and played examples of music from soon after its invention to the present day.   One of the first composers to use it was the now unknown Jean-Baptiste Singelée who composed Premier Quatour from which we heard the andante played using four instruments actually made by Sax himself
 
Strangely, it was the Russian composers who were keenest to compose work for the instrument and Ed played excerpts from Mussorgsky’s Pictures at an Exhibition and also compositions by Glazunov: Concerto for alto saxophone and string orchestra, Jazz Suite No 1 by Shostakovich and Rachmaninov’s Symphonic DancesGeorges Bizet was a fan and the intermezzo from L’Arlésienne features the instrument.  Despite attempts by composers such as Walton, Britten and Vaughan Williams to include it into their music, it remains an ‘affiliate’ rather than a permanent feature of orchestras.
It has gained an odd reputation for itself and some feel there is an element of sleaze to it possibly because of its jazz connections.  This was sufficient for the ecclesiastical authorities in Worcester Cathedral to ask for a section of a Vaughan Williams composition not to be played because it contained some music for the instrument!

The next meeting is a members evening and is on December 1st.